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With the upcoming release of the movie about the superhero Black panther, we are seeing again the buildup of the already typical narrative that if you didn’t like the movie it’s because you’re a racist. We saw the same thing with ghostbusters, when a narrative was built claiming that every single person who didn’t like the film was sexist, and we have seen it since with various movies whenever they have a female or minority cast. It’s a way to deflect any criticism of the movie and excuse its failure by blaming the viewers with false accusations. Because, you know, the only possible reason to not like a blockbuster movie is because you hate women or minorities, it can’t possibly be because these movies are usually as simple as a lolipop. I’m not saying the movie will be bad; i’ve liked a few superhero movies, like the Iron man ones, or Wonder woman, but most of them are only worth for a 2 hours mild entertainment that i promptly forget.

In this case it has reached a point where Rotten tomatoes has threatened to ban people who give the movie a bad review if they think the review is hate speech. This would not be bad on itself until you consider how today everything under the sun is considered hate speech, and how some are already claiming that any negative review of the movie is racism. To prove this point, after one critic gave the movie a bad review, journalists, twitters and bloggers have been smearing that person for daring to give a bad review to a black movie, with headlines as wonderful as “Trump’s America Spoils Black Panther’s 100% Rotten Tomatoes score” or “Black panther is for movies what Barak obama was for politics”, arguing, like many are doing, that Black panther is the first blockbuster movie in history with a black protagonist, ignoring tons of movies like Blade, spawn, shaft, catwoman, men in black, Coming to America, etc. But the greatest claim of them all, is the one that the article in the comic, and some people in twitter, have made that Africa would be an ultra futuristic billionaire continent if it wasn’t for white people. Last time i checked a history book, Africa was already a pretty bad place when white people came arround, and their technological level wasn’t exactly state of the art. By that logic, Spain, which was occupied by the moors for almost 800 years, would be an ultra futuristic country if it wasn’t for them, and it should be as poor as Africa is right now. Instead, we are a normal European first world nation, and we were at a time the most powerful nation in the world.

The funniest thing about all of this, is that Wakanda, the fictional country that the movie is set on (and one some people believe is real), was actually in the comics an ultranationalistic state, with a big big wall surrounding it, that refuses any kind of inmigration or even tourism. T’chala is far, far more nationalistic and isolationist than Trump has ever been, to the point that the alt-right is making the joke that “he’s one of them”. And they’re probably not wrong.

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Iki-Fujisaka Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I finally managed to watch the movie and the best part was the trailer of Infinity War before it. Also the nachos I ate somewhere on the beginning.
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TheScullyBoy Featured By Owner 2 hours ago
What did you not like about the movie? I thought it was good.
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Iki-Fujisaka Featured By Owner 1 hour ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What am I supposed to tell you? It was a superhero movie. I wasn't expecting masterpiece but after all this hype I felt... boredom.
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ArmaBiologica Featured By Owner Edited 2 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don´t deny that there is people who will dismiss any form of criticims towards the movie as racism.
But on the other hand it is one thing giving a work of art proper criticism on it´s technical aspects.
It´s an entirely different thing to base your criticisms solely on weird over analysis of subtext that´s probably not there, not made on purpose, unimportant or entirely open for interpretation.

Is it adequate to call someone racist because the extent of their thoughts and criticisms towards any work of fiction that plays by its own rules sums to "This is SJW propaganda because they force diversity into the cast and it´s unrealistic that women/minorities would be presented this way"?

Is it fair to call an opinion of a work of art "hate speech" when that opinion makes the argument that any character of "X" or "Y" demographic should abide to a certain set of rules or that it is a problem that said demographic is even presented in the first place?
I don´t know, it seems pretty vague, over simplistic and specific of a criticism but maybe that´s just me.
I guess the days when people watched superhero flicks for fun are over man.

It´s the same dilema of Wolfenstein 2 all over again. 

I´m not making the argument that people who say all negative criticism towards these movies are a form of racism are correct.
I´m just pointing out that you seem to forget that not all negative criticism have a solid valid basis.
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner 3 days ago
Although you are still right about the fact that Africa would have very much have been the exact same thing even if Africa was never occupied by foreigners of that continent.

So at least we agree on some things.
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HNBBTF Featured By Owner Edited 4 days ago
Odds are Africa on average would probably be worst without colonization. The real legacy of colonialism is that Western ideas were introduced to Africa and that many countries rejected them utterly good and bad. You'll notice that the countries that didn't have blame the whites and get rid of them campaigns do far better like the Ivory Coast and Botswana.
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trilliondollerman Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist Photographer
Ok, KukuruyoArt I gotta ask. Do you enable comments because you want feedback or to see how many people you make mad? I ain't mad, just asking.
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KukuruyoArt Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Professional Digital Artist
Both? XD
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner 4 days ago
However, I agree that Black Panther is NOT an accurate portrayal of what Africa would have been like.

But my point is that Black Panther would NOT stand with the Alt-Righters NOR the SJWs, for reasons that I already explained in another comment of mine.

If anything, Black Panther's more of a Moderate Conservative.
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sowerofash Featured By Owner 5 days ago
"The 'Black Panther' trailer shows what Africa would have been if white people didn't destroy it"
hahahahahaha WE WUZ KINGS N' SHEIT
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SilverStarApple Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Professional Writer
If you want to see what Africa would look like without white people, look at what Africa is right now, but imagine the Boers, a current victim of state-sponsored genocide, are a black ethnic group Mugabe doesn't like.
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drochunafurrey Featured By Owner 6 days ago
what a stupid lie
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner 6 days ago
To be honest, Black Panther himself wanted to end the ultranationalist policies of Wakanda, hence why Black Panther trusts foreigners to the point of letting them in (why do you think Captain America and Bucky were allowed in Wakanda?), MUCH UNLIKE most other Wakandans.
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GuiltyFlare Featured By Owner 2 days ago
"hence why Black Panther trusts foreigners to the point of letting them in"
he trusts specific people, like cap and the avengers 
but foreigners in general he doesn't.
example in the comic the ultimates  
here is the cover so you can see which one
i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/m…

he built a ground base for the new Alpha flight squad in Washington DC, the entire place was place was staffed by people from Wankanda, as well his honor guard.
   
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Actually, I am NOT referring to Ultimate!Black Panther, I am referring to Movie!Black Panther as well as the original 616!Black Panther.

marvel.wikia.com/wiki/T%27Chal… (the guy that allows Captain America and Winter Soldier into his home and also willingly works with other superheroes that are not from his country while he's outside of his country).

marvel.wikia.com/wiki/T%27Chal… (the guy that worked with multiple superheroes and even joined superhero teams foreign to Wakanda in order to defend both his home and other countries, and even fell in love with somebody foreign to Wakanda -cough Storm cough-.)

He'd be the kind of guy that only allows visitors that legally traveled and legal immigrants to enter Wakanda.

In other words, aside from the monarchy, Black Panther's more of a moderate conservative, if anything.
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GuiltyFlare Featured By Owner 1 day ago
Ultimate is original as it takes place in the main marvel universe.
 
Yes black panther works with the avengers
but doesn't open his country to other country's.

in fact even the movie version doesn't have open borders or immigration, all he is doing is now working with others.

  

 
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner 1 day ago
Yes, but 616 universe and Ultimate universe started out as separate, and Ultimate Black Panther and 616 Black Panther are still separated versions of a character just like how Movie Black Panther is yet another seperate version of Black Panther.

I never said anything about "Black Panther opening borders", I'm only pointing out that since both Movie and 616 Black Panther are willing to work with foreign heroes, allow some foreigners into his country (some, NOT all), and both are even work outside their country, that proves that both 616 Black Panther and Movie Black Panther are NOT ultranationalists, but they are actually moderate nationalists and moderate conservatives.

Heck, 616 Black Panther is even willing to have legal immigrants (NOT illegal), eg. Storm, into his country, which further proves that 616 Black Panther is more of a moderate conservative and also more of a moderate nationalist.

Also, 616 Black Panther joined other superhero teams other than The Avengers, such as the Fantastic Four, Marvel's heroic version of the Illuminati (I do NOT believe in the Illuminati, I am just pointing out that Marvel made their own version of the Illuminati), and the Knights of Pendragon, further showing that 616 Black Panther is tolerant of some foreigners.

Also, Movie Black Panther allows Captain America into his country as a visitor and Winter Soldier into his country for protection from Tony Stark and Tony's team, which implies that Movie Black Panther is becoming tolerant to some foreigners.

With all that being pointed out, I can therefore confirm that Movie Black Panther and 616 Black Panther are both moderate conservatives and moderate nationalists.
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GuiltyFlare Featured By Owner 22 hours ago
"Yes, but 616 universe and Ultimate universe started out as separate"
not anymore the link i posted was from the latest comic taking place in the main 616.
the ultimates are in 616.

Yes he is willing to work with but again those are individuals.
not nations or cultures inside his home country.

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 and the Knights of Pendragon, further showing that 616 Black Panther is tolerant of some foreigners."
yes i know, but again those are individuals, not populations or countries.

 
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 which implies that Movie Black Panther is becoming tolerant to some foreigners."
again supporting my point on him supporting individuals.
  
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner Edited 22 hours ago
"not anymore the link i posted was from the latest comic taking place in the main 616.
the ultimates are in 616."
The Ultimates are only in 616 due to a mass crossover that combined universe. And 616 Black Panther and Ultimate Black Panther are still separate counterparts, exactly like how Movie Black Panther is another separate counterpart.

"Yes he is willing to work with but again those are individuals.
not nations or cultures inside his home country."
True, but he allows his allies to have positive opinions about their countries just as much as he loves his.

"Yes i know, but again those are individuals, not populations or countries."
But he's still tolerant to foreigners either way. Even though those foreigners are NOT an entire country, those foreigners are still a population of people in the sense that they are a group.

"again supporting my point on him supporting individuals."
It's called character development.
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GuiltyFlare Featured By Owner 2 hours ago
But again 
in the comics. its only one black panther, not talking about any other black panther.

"True, but he allows his allies to have positive opinions about their countries just as much as he loves his."
but that is there opinions, not about his county's polices, of closed borders, no immigration, which in the comics and movie is still happening.

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foreigners are still a population of people in the sense that they are a group."
now you are saying individuals represent the group, the avengers, and other superteams do not represent any group, religion, country etc etc.
just because he has a positive opinion on s person does not mean he has the same opinion on group, country etc etc.
as shown in the comics, he still supports a closed border nation.

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It's called character development."
its still individuals 
  
 
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Miossec97 Featured By Owner 10 hours ago
Plus, from what I've read of the Ultimate universe, everyone is an asshole just so it can be "realistic".

Every bad guys wants to eat our heroes, Tony Stark is constantly drunk because he was a blue baby and Captain America hates France 

imgur.com/gallery/poEO2
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Saffireprowler Featured By Owner 6 days ago
You made several good points, and I had no idea how ultranationalist they were in the comic. Alas, I don't really watch a lot of film or television.
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AsFoxger Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Esa clase de acusaciones que hacen la CNN (Communist News Network) no hacen más que quitarme las ganas de ver literalmente cualquier película que saquen de Shittywood. Ya no hacen películas para que la gente los disfrute y punto, ya hacen propaganda.
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Mauser712 Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist Writer
Best way to break some SJW brains: Point out that T'Challa is the Trump of Wakanda, who has successfully built The Wall and keeps out immigrants.
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kyuzoaoi Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2018   Artist
The only way to judge a movie is by watching it.
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loreshaper-kethal Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2018
One thing some people forgot to mention is that another supply of Vibranium can be found in Antarctica.

As well as Tony Stark figured out how to make synthetic Vibranium out of a Paladium isotope.

Much as I love the marvel movies, a lot of the amazing world building the comics have done gets left out of them.
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KukuruyoArt Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
Didn't synthetic vibranium kinda melted after some time?
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Wanderer619 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018
Dead on indeed
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StriderSyd Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018
I really get the feeling that a majority, (if not all)
of the racist accusers don't really read comics in the 1st place,
and never even knew who BlackPanther ever was until CA:CW came out.

"Black panther is for movies what Barak Obama was for politics"....how do they mean?
BO was the 1st black president, and BlackPanther was the 1st black super hero.

Well yeah....and what else? Is that it?

Then in that case, it would have been better to say that:
"Barak Obama is for politics what Black panther was for comics"
(because y'know, there were absolutely no fictional black heroes anywhere before 1966)

And if one actually delves into the (fictional) politics of Wakanda,
then you realize that they don't seem to line up with BO's administration durning his 2 terms.
(as you pointed out somewhat)
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GuiltyFlare Featured By Owner 6 days ago
"I really get the feeling that a majority, (if not all)
of the racist accusers don't really read comics in the 1st place,
and never even knew who BlackPanther ever was until CA:CW came out."

spot on the nose dude, if you look at many of there arguments for Black panther, they all talk about him, as if this is the first time they have ever heard about a black superhero in general before this point. 
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Mauser712 Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Hobbyist Writer
Most of the people demanding minority representation in Comics aren't comics readers, and don't support the comics they protested into existence.
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GuiltyFlare Featured By Owner 4 days ago
yep, its why companies should just ignore them
or just ignore twitter, and timber in general 
they cry for a product, and when product is made, they dont buy it, product dies off, and then they cry again, and the cycle stars all over again. 
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KukuruyoArt Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
Of course they don't, they think Wakanda is real
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astrew Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
if you wanna get technical  , spawn (1997) was the first black superhero in cinema
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:iconguiltyflare:
GuiltyFlare Featured By Owner 6 days ago
actually its  
The Meteor Man (1993)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mete…
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astrew Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
True
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astrew Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Although i mean based on a property not original
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Synn0Nihm Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The self-perceived moral invincibility of the bigot is both their greatest strength and weakness.
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raulsatisacro Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018
Bueno,  T'Challa le abrió las puertas a los extranjeros en algunas historias. Que al final se arrepintió pero lo hizo.

Y con todo esto de Disney y Fox, ¿habrá alguna chance de una boda entre Pantera Negra y Tormenta? ¿cómo había en los cómics antes de la película de los Vengadores?
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KukuruyoArt Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
A saber, en las peliculas han cambiado parejas, como lo de viuda negra y bruce banner
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DragonStrider Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Well definately going to skip this shit now.
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feekle Featured By Owner Edited Feb 11, 2018
Marvel movies are about to go full SJW just like their comics. I bet they kill off the white men in Infinity War (or some of them) and replace them with SJW approved characters. Female Thor, anyone?

I'm glad I stopped following the MCU a while back. I only like the Guardians of the Galaxy ones.
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lunargem Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018
hey it's rare for me to find people with your views but you seem like an ok guy and I wanted to ask you what is the deal with focusing on this kind of things and stuff. I have my personal opinions on these matters but can you explain to me this sense of unfairness you see please :) if you have the time
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KukuruyoArt Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
I don't know what you mean by sense of unfairiness, i don't have anthing against Black panther or the movie, i'm just laughing at all of the stupidity surrounding it.
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lunargem Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2018
ah ok. you know i dont relly see much of the stuff you proclaim to find online unless I really try and I believe you are just giving them more ground or publicity and some person that is on the edge of becoming an irrational reactor might see this and become one. but I guess your goal was to laught at this irrational reactors and share this laughs. Also politics aside what did you think of the movie, but no spoilers please I have yet to see it :)
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KukuruyoArt Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
This kind of shit is far more widespread than you think. I see this kind of shit everyday, without even trying to find it, and it comes from mainstream publications that are read by thousands if not millions. When Ghostbusters came out, i saw tons of people on social media paroding the narrative that if you didn't like it you are a sexist, including friends i've known for a decade. I try to laugh a the specific people who say something, but sometimes is so widespead that i can't just point out in a direction.

I haven't seen the movie and i'm not really interested. Superhero movies are usually low quality, and i never followed t'chala much in the comics.
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chelvo56 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, if it wasn't conquered by the moors, it would prolly be called Visigothica or something
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lordmep Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018  Hobbyist Writer
"Black panther is for movies what Barak obama was for politics"

So a chore you just have to muddle through and hope it doesn't leave too much of a mess?
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Fan01 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018
Critique Captain America and no one bats an eye. Critique Black Panther and everyone loses their minds!
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Galer-X Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
well that's not assenine at all
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