At a recent event where Milo yiannopulos was to give a speech, antifa protestors have organized and caused riots, breaking stores, part of the university, setting fires, beating up Milo supporters with steel bars, spraying them with pepper spray, and a lot of stuff with the intention (succesful) of stopping a jewish gay to give one of his speechs about political correctness. You know, the kind of thing that fascists do. Because nothing tells more that you’re a tolerant leftist than stopping people to use their freedom of expression using violence because you don’t agree with them.
And again, this is one of reasons why i’m a leftist who dislikes the leftists. I don’t agree with many of the stuff that Milo says. In fact i probably disagree with most, but he’s someone i like because i could have a reasonable discussion with. I know that most of what he says is in jest; dark humor and humorous hyperboles, and when he’s serious he uses sources to back himself up, and i agree with him on the battle against political correctness. But even if he was truly, as his enemies claim without proof, a radical extreme right winger or alt-right neo nazi leader, i would still support his freedom of speech, as he’s not inciting any violence nor breaking anyone elses rights. I feel shame when i see people who claim to be left wingers and anti fascist use any means necesary, including steel bars, to stop people from saying contrary opinions. That’s the opposite of free speech, that’s not what left wing should suposedly be about, that’s fascism. Also, i see an increase in the justification of going outside to “punch nazis”. I’m the first one who, when i see someone miserable being punched, says “they deserve it”, but, do you know what’s the problem with “punching nazis”? That the leftist definition of who’s a “nazi” keeps increasing, till everyone who thinks slightly different is a nazi, and then, since you justified punching a nazi, it’s justified to punch…everyone you disagree with…
And i couldn’t help myself from using Mio, my parody character of Milo, to be the journalist who ask questions about the protests of a Milo event XD, as well as the Taric reference. Nati ursi with the virgin killer is a bonus, since so many people ask me for porn of her. Someday, i promise.
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Basically America during the entirety of their participation in WWII XD
Perhaps not best friends, but hopefully at least decent friends.
Anti-abolitionists
Bushwacking
The Civil War
Assassination of Lincoln
all Jim Crow laws
Segregation
KKK
need I go on?
Me: i'm pretty sure the answer you want is racism or sexism...
All and all, great work, I specially love how the "anti-fa" guy is holding a starbucks coffee xD
For example if you insult someone, that person can sue you for offense to honor (at least that's a thing in Spain) and you can be fined. That's a proportional response. But unfortunately in Spain we are having cases of people going years to jail just for telling a dark humor joke.
Also are you being serious about going to jail for a joke?!
P.S. love your GamerGate comics here on Deviant Art!
And yeah, in Spain we have strong anti-free speech laws, and there are people going to jail even for poking fun at dead dictators.
www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/…
Sorry if I came across as psychotic as the rioters on my comments in this comment section. I'm just mad that those people have turned violent as hell.
I believe that NOBODY should ever justify monstrous violence, including riots, assaults causing bodily harm, murder, and other forms of such barbarism. Ever.
I used to hate Trump, but even then I definitely still would NEVER stoop as far as actually committing any of that cruel shit.
Say what you will about any political parties, politicians, and political positions, but those brutish rioters are CERTAINLY villains, politics or not.
Do you really think inciting people to harrass trans people:
"Never feel bad for mocking a transgender person. It is our job to point out their absurdity, to not make the problem worse by pretending they are normal. Much like fat-shaming, if our mockery drives them to get the help they need, we may save their life."
www.advocate.com/transgender/2…
Or actually harrassing in public a trans student falls under free speech?
www.teenvogue.com/story/milo-y…
mic.com/articles/162572/milo-y…
Or that covering for a pedophile, as Milo himself claims he does, fall under free speech?:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL5gD0…
www.ninaillingworth.com/2016/0…
If you should wonder if you ARE an idiot, if you think things that aren't free speech, fall under free speech.
And bellow it shows how falls it is that Milo is a free speech champion, while in reality Milo, and people who defend him, use free speech when it's convinent, and are against it when it's not convinent to him, with Milo demanding an apology for being called a white nationalist by the the Major of Berkley:
pbs.twimg.com/media/C3wGR2kWYA…
You can search it up, if you don't believe me.
Now do as you please, i'll go back to ignore you unless my powers are required, you have been warned. And i would point out that if the roles where reversed, and i was to fill the social media of some Sjw with walls of text of rage, i would have been long ago accused of harrassment and blocked. Idc about your opinions, i just tell you i don't agree with you and that's it, but don't be a dick with all those who just want to throw a comment about the comic.
"So yeah, I thought I could maybe get to you, but you're pretty much to biased and blinded by your beliefs to discuss this with you, although you probably start projecting in a moment, and tell I'm biased and blinded by my beliefs..."
comments.deviantart.com/1/6611…
And really, believe me, if we go to contest, I could fill with so much bad things said, and even done by red pillers, you wouldn't find enough SJW stuff to balance it out, and I could really debunk at least half of the examples of you having SJWs as horrible and even prove from them further how horrible red pillers can act.
You probably will lie agan, as like that lie that you didn't discuss Milo and his beliefs which you did ie "I know that most of what he says is in jest; dark humor and humorous hyperboles, and when he’s serious he uses sources to back himself up, and i agree with him on the battle against political correctness." - It's a claim about Milo
"But even if he was truly, as his enemies claim without proof, a radical extreme right winger or alt-right neo nazi leader, i would still support his freedom of speech, as he’s not inciting any violence nor breaking anyone elses rights. " and this is you lying, at least in contect as Milo did incite to agression or at least harrrassment o of trans people, again Milo's own words:
"Never feel bad for mocking a transgender person. It is our job to point out their absurdity, to not make the problem worse by pretending they are normal. Much like fat-shaming, if our mockery drives them to get the help they need, we may save their life."
www.advocate.com/transgender/2…
Milo actially defends mocking (ie harrassing) trans people isn't ba, and outright tells his supporters is their "job" to do so. And this isn't inciting agression, or at least to harrassment?
And yet you lie you didn't talk anything about Milo. But again, I would just further point out your lies when you would write them.
Again it's you threatened me with this pissing contest, I won't start it, but I warn I AM PREPARED, if you will.
(And note, I didn't post random bad things done by Red Pillers and Alt-Righters(although the difference between the grous get's smaller, and smaller, as even admitted by Cult of Dusty), just about Milo, and how what he doesn't wasn't fitting under him just using his freedom of speech.)
And it's ironic you talk about thin skin, as you show you and your supporters are thin skinned wit this behaviour.
But it's not surprising, Milo is himself legendarily thin skinned, and therefore a increadible hipocrite:
pbs.twimg.com/media/C3wGR2kWYA…
I could even do a joke about you "White Knighting" your supporters now, just like you Red Pill guys love so much to accuse others of, but I don't think it's even needed now.
"And btw, i notice you've said about a thousand times that you won't respond again because "i'm a lost cause" (even when you have yet absolutely no idea what i agree or disagree with Milo on, you only know i support free speech, which, since you do not, puts me far, far more to the left than you), and then write again. It's something that i noticed milenials tend to do, and i have always found hilarous. So i just wanted to make it clear, that i don't follow that line. Use your "last word" however you see fit."
comments.deviantart.com/1/6611…
Yoi essentially wrote there you don't want to discuss further with me, and that you are finishing, and that I should wiselly use my last comment. Yet you comment allready twice after that. The first time could (I note only COULD) be explained with you "defending"(in your language "white knighting") your supporter, but your comment I respont to now, has no such excuse.
Really more of a millenial (at least in spirit) than you claim you are eh? XD
And what I posted wasn't an "another wall of rage", but a response to you accusations, and your (rguable) attempt to start a possing contest between us (at least hat's what I got from your comment.
Maybe you would know if you actually read my comment, but as you wrote "I won't read another wall of rage", you're just to arrogant to actually read, and properly respond to criticism, or even comments you don't agree with.
I hope the movie you have created in your head (whatever it is) is entertaining, because i'll not be watching it with you.
Anti-Fascists..."Should we hold ourselves to higher standards than the Nazi Fascists we claim to hate...?"
News flash, if the answer is not "FUCKING YES.", then you're probably a shitty person.
In the US right now there's a lot of the first (nationalism) from the right wing, but it seems that the right wing is much more open than the left to free speech. It may be in part because the right wing has realized it didn't work for them in the past to censor, and now they can be the "good guys" by supporting free speech, or it may be because this recent years the left has been the status quo so they right wing is the one who has to fight for their right to speech. What will happen now that Trump has won, we will see, but so far the left seems to haven't learn any lesson from the elections and be doubling down in fucking with others rights. Not the best route when the other side has the guns. In fact i'm amazed at how little payback the right wing is doing to all of this. Except for a few cases like the self defense shouting, it seems the right wing tries to dodge violence everytime the left tries this. Some years ago i would've though it would be several deads already.
"Never feel bad for mocking a transgender person. It is our job to point out their absurdity, to not make the problem worse by pretending they are normal. Much like fat-shaming, if our mockery drives them to get the help they need, we may save their life."
www.advocate.com/transgender/2…
I don't think inciting to harrass and atack people even verbally, is falling under free speech.
Nor is harrassing a trans student:
www.teenvogue.com/story/milo-y…
mic.com/articles/162572/milo-y…
And I don't think covering for a pedophile, as Milo himself claims he does, fall under free speech:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL5gD0…
www.ninaillingworth.com/2016/0…
This is actually a serious and disgusting thing, for what (covering for pedophiles) people go to jail.
Saying pedophilia is harmless and even good like Milo doesm' also streaches the definition of free speach, as it's claiming on tv a very serious crime is harmless or even good.
If you do not believe in freedom of speech for your enemy, you do not believe in freedom of speech.
Anyway, politely bother someone else.
And covering for a pedophile DEFINITELLY isn't falling under free speech?
This isn't about just the fact Milo spoke or wrote bigoted shit, how he ACTED.
What is with you people and misnaming things that aren't free speech (ie harrassment, inciting to harrassment COVERING FOR PEDOPHILE(BY MILO'S OWN ADMISSION)) as free speech, or even just lying it's free speech, when it obviously no longer is the case?
And you still claim harrassng people, and motivating other to harrass and atttack trans people falls under free speach?
Shows how biased you are, to the point of delusion.
With Milo, and people who defend him, you also only use free speech when it's convinent, with Milo demanding an apology for being called a white nationalist by the the Major of Berkley:
pbs.twimg.com/media/C3wGR2kWYA…
He pretty much is a free speech chanpion, as long as it's convinent to him.
If you don't believe if free speech for your enemies, you don't believe in free speech at all.
Do you you really think harrassment and inciting to harrassment and attacks falls under free speech?
I didn't write Milo shouldn't be given platform because of his beliefs, but because he uses the platform his given to harrass/attack people and to motivate other do it. THIS.IS.NO.LONGER.FALLS.UNDER.FREE.SPEECH.
There is free speech, and there is harrassment. Milo shouldn't be givent platform, as he uses it for harrassment.
Again though, you seem so biased that you will claim things that aren't free speech, as free speech, to lie and demonize me as an opponent of free speech, even if I argue all the time Milo shouldn't be given platform because of his behaviour, not just beliefs.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJhHws…
Really giving platform to a pedophile advocate and defender is OK.
www.gaystarnews.com/article/hu…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9y5dv…
nymag.com/thecut/2016/12/milo-…
mic.com/articles/162572/milo-y…
He actually stated this:
"Never feel bad for mocking a transgender person. It is our job to point out their absurdity, to not make the problem worse by pretending they are normal. Much like fat-shaming, if our mockery drives them to get the help they need, we may save their life."
www.advocate.com/transgender/2…
There is a reason why almost everyone in the LGBT community hates Milo.
And that he's also a misogynist, or at least chaivinist, who thinks genuily women are worse than men, and uses "lesbians" as an insult regulary to confirm it?
www.breitbart.com/big-governme…
www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/07…
And those things have weight on his oppinions on feminisms, and progressiv laws, as Milo is motivated by his bigotry, not by rational reasons.
And about his perma ban from Twitter he deserved it. He allready broke the rules of Twitter many times enough to get a perma ban several times, and if anything, it's a show of abusing his status he got perma-banned so late, compared to a common person.
It's even shocking people who defend Men's Rights like him, if anything they only like like him for for his misogyby, transphobia etc. Milo outright mocked male sexual organ mutilation, something MRAs aparently fight about:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-hjt7…
If a feminist or anyone else told such things, you would roast her/him alive and say she is a horrible person.
For a long time it seemed Milo scammed people for scholarship for white men, for 100 000 dlars, but MRAs or Red Pillers don't react to this only a few days a ago, over half year late, he oppened them. It really seems as if he got catched red handed on a scam, and had to get the money again, to get a trail.
www.thedailybeast.com/articles…
It wouldn't be the first time Milo does immoral things, and scams people out of money:
www.theguardian.com/media/2013…
And about his asociation with Nazism, yes Milo was at least somewhat fascinaed with it, and Hitler.
rsbenedict.tumblr.com/post/139…
Even wearing a Nazi iron cross. Milo having at least a swing with Nazism, is something even Encyclopedia Dramatica writtes about.
And don't try to explain Milo just writtes horrible things as comedy. It's just an excuse for him to get away from any cobsequences when he acts bigoted, via parody retcon.
Again if not taking seruiously Milo's bigoted stuff, one should not seriously ANYTHING he writes or says.
In other words, people oppose Milo presence, as he's a bigoted, horrible person, who again actualy is so drunk in his fame he abuses people (ie the trans person), and justifies AND advocates the abuse of people (ie of trans and overweight people), and even mocks male sexual organ mutilation.
Again, it's at least some reason to not give platform a person, who outright incites to abuse towards others. Again:
"Never feel bad for mocking a transgender person. It is our job to point out their absurdity, to not make the problem worse by pretending they are normal. Much like fat-shaming, if our mockery drives them to get the help they need, we may save their life."
"Never feel bad for mocking a transgender person. It is our job to point out their absurdity, to not make the problem worse by pretending they are normal. Much like fat-shaming, if our mockery drives them to get the help they need, we may save their life."
Can you lie that this is not inciting to harrass trans people?
About the harrassment:
www.teenvogue.com/story/milo-y…
mic.com/articles/162572/milo-y…
He outright supported a transphobic campaign:
www.gaystarnews.com/article/hu…
If Milo acts transphobic, writes transphobic shit, he pretty much is transphobe.
And he didn't joke when defended pedophilia, from what I know, he never debunked what he said then, or said it was a "joke".
Again though Milo joke claims are just an excuse for him to get away from any consequences when he acts bigoted, via parody retcon.
Again if not taking seriously Milo's bigoted stuff, one should not seriously ANYTHING he writes or says.
If Milo wants to taken seriously he should grow up, and take responcibility for what he says, writtes, and for his views.
And you in turn, are defending a horrible bigot, and a pedophile advocate. Congratualions, what a true leftists you are, defending a rightwing scumbag, who embodies literally all what's worst on the right. I'm not here saiying all right wingers are bad people, many are good, but Milo definitelly is the embindent of all or at least a lot that is horrible on the right (ie transphobia, misogyny, mockings men's problem because of religion, pedophile advocacy etc).
And how do yiou defending his scams?
www.theguardian.com/media/2013…
www.theguardian.com/technology…
And yes he fidally gives the scholarship for white men, but half year late, enough time he could gather the money again from other sources, which is serious possibulity he did, seeing again Milo's past.
Again, in the past he mocked gammers, writting "few things … more embarrassing than grown men getting over-excited about video games.", and even blamming video games for the Isla Vista killings. Of course he claimed latter he wrote that out of opprtunism, but yeah, if so he is a pretty corrupt and bad journalist, who says he will lie to get publicity. What a great ally for Gamergate's quest for Journalistic ethics and standards! And also steals articles from his interns:
www.nydailynews.com/news/natio…
And was outright tied to a terrorist:
twitter.com/ashleylynch/status…
www.zenofdesign.com/the-terrif…
And Milo lied and denied his connection and asociation with Goldberg, despite it being solelly proven they had regular contact:
twitter.com/ashleylynch/status…
twitter.com/SuperSpacedad/stat…
Besides, it's completely out of the point. Even if everything he said was serious, it's still just speech, it's still just a gay giving his opinion about stuff, not acting on it. If you want him to not have free speech because you don't agree with those opinions, then you're a fascist, and you have become worse than any thing he has done.
And I didn;t copy this from Tumblr, but gathered it from many many sources I read about Milo. And Milo DID act on his believes, by harrasing the trans student, and supporting a transphoobic campaign, something you didn't read:
www.teenvogue.com/story/milo-y…
mic.com/articles/162572/milo-y…
www.gaystarnews.com/article/hu…
And he also acted on his beliefs, by inciting others to harass trans people:
"Never feel bad for mocking a transgender person. It is our job to point out their absurdity, to not make the problem worse by pretending they are normal. Much like fat-shaming, if our mockery drives them to get the help they need, we may save their life."
(allready gave the link to this TWICE above)
For a difference click and read what's written in this links before you make fool out of yourself. Again, I wrote Milo isn't to be stopped from giving platform to Milo because of his views, but because he does act on his horrific views, motivates others to harrass and hate people, and because he justifies very criminal and very immoral behaviour (pedophilia).
And Milo admited on camera, that he witnessed the sexual assault of multiple “very young boys” and aparently didn't do nothing about it. In other words, he admits to cover for a pedophile.
youtu.be/CL5gD02SZ5g?t=656
www.ninaillingworth.com/2016/0…
Again according to himself, Milo acted in his support of pedophiles. ACCORDING TO HIMSELF.
Again, even if he lies, his defence of pedophiles is disgusting, and how he underplays and tries to present as synpathic this horrific, criminal activity.
And again, it's BOYS who are damaged. You said you care for Men's Rights?
And it's not lies Milo worked with a terrorist and denied it, again check out the links, or even research it yourself, to give proper counter arguments.
And check out those links, before making a fool out of yourself.
I don't hatepost, I just write the thruth about the bigoted, pedophile defending piece of shit you so defend and idealize.